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17 Comments
September 26, 2009 at 10:39 pm
TWO DEAD CATS ON FARNBOROUGH ROAD!!
As i was driving up the Farnborough Road this evening i have seen 2 dead cats lying on the grass, which is very strange, as i drove back down the Farnborough Road one of the two cats was put in the road by a gang of kids and the gang of kids were kicking the dead cat and throwing things at it, it was the most discusting thing ive ever seen, i cant believe how cruel the children are on Castle Vale, you must be very sick to throw a dead cat into the road and start throwing stones and what eva at it, i then called the rspca when i got home and i was told they cant send a inspector out unless i can tell them how the cats have died which is very stupid
I really cant get over what i have seen tonight sick children!!!
September 27, 2009 at 12:37 pm
1)It’s unfair to generalise about Castle Vale children. Very few are cruel.
2) How do you imagine the cats died? Most likely killed by careless drivers. Some are injured and left to crawl away, only to die in agony. Rarely do drivers stop to do anything about it – that’s if they even notice.
3) You could have stopped and removed the body yourself, as you were so angry about what was happening.
Kindly don’t generalise about Castle Vale kids. Most are normal, decent and well brought up. Every area has its unpleasant side. Maybe even yours?
September 27, 2009 at 1:27 pm
i live on castle vale!
September 27, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Are you saying that it was you, Nick, who wrote the letter headed “ANIMALS”?
September 27, 2009 at 2:28 pm
i really dont know what you mean.
September 27, 2009 at 2:31 pm
are you saying that you would of stopped and cleaned the battered cat up from the road. what i witnessed last night was absolutley disgusting.
September 28, 2009 at 9:13 am
Ann….how disgusting what you have said…nobody is generalising children off Castle Vale. As an animal lover i personally would not be able to remove the cat from the road either. yes these children are sick, the ones that start off hurting animals tend to end up being murderes. Sick sick sick
September 28, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Jean:
The orginal letter said “i cant believe how cruel the children are on Castle Vale”. Not “some children”, or “a few children” or even “a minority of children”, but THE children. That is generalisation, and it’s wrong.
I agree that children who start off by hurting animals may well turn their attention to worse things later on, BUT no amount of wringing your hands or slagging them off on a blog is going to change that.
What might have had some effect would have been someone calmly removing the body before it was battered – but clearly no-one cared enough.
For the record, you can’t hurt something that’s dead – it can’t feel anything. I agree with you that these kids’ behaviour was revolting, but are you and I, or the person who wrote the first letter, going to be able to change them? I doubt it. There is absolutely no point in reporting these terrible things just for the sake of it – but it seemed to me that it was being reported on this blog so that the writer could have a go at ALL Castle Vale kids, as if they ALL do horrible things like that.
I wasn’t going to stand by & let some anonymous person slag off my neighbours’ kids – they just don’t belong in the same category.
September 29, 2009 at 5:03 pm
I agree with both Ann’s and Jean’s points on this. Fair enough, people shouldn’t generalise all Castle Vale children and I dont believe that first person ment to. I think he or she was just so horrified by the sight of a dead cat being pelted with stuff, even if the cat was dead still not a nice sight. Im a cat lover myself, but dont think I could have removed it either. I feel that Jean, being an animal lover herself, must have felt as disgusted by the thought of the act as the person who witnessed it. These kids should be punished for commiting this act, but are more than likely not to be. Jean is right, these types of people do share a trait with people who become murderers and serial killers. But when they reach that stage there are people out there who will stop them…
September 29, 2009 at 6:34 pm
DOES ANY ONE REMEMBER A PLAY THAT WAS FILMED AT CASTLE VALE COMP FOR TV BETWEEN 1981-83??. IT WAS ABOUT A DELINQUENT TEEN AND ALL THE SET EXTRAS WERE PUPILS FROM CV SCHOOL AT THE TIME. IT WAS ACTUALLY SHOWN ON TV WITH THE SCHOOL NAME CHANGED TO MEADOW RISE, BUT THE PLAYS NAME ESCAPES ME. IT WOULD HAVE MANY FACES OF CV YOUTH GONE BY WHO MAY HAVE FORGOTTEN THIS EPISODE OF CVs AND THEIR OWN HISTORY CAUGHT ON FILM.
October 21, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Yes the play was called Troublemakers
and my son appeared in it.
We also have a video.
Although we have not looked at it for a while.
October 23, 2009 at 5:22 pm
THATS GREAT, WAS BEGGINNING TO THINK NO ONE ON THE VALE REMEMBERED IT. I WONDER HOW MANY PEOPLE WHO APPEARED IN IT HAVE ACTUALLY FORGOTTEN THEIR MOMENT OF FAME, I THOUGHT THAT MORE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE REMEMBERED IT AS ITS A GREAT PIECE OF VALE HISTORY/NOSTALGIA. BY ANY CHANCE IS YOUR SONS NAME STEVEN ?? AS A GIRL CALLED SANDRA WHO WAS IN MY WIFES CLASS WENT OUT WITH A LAD CALLED STEVEN WHO WAS IN THE PLAY. IT WOULD BE A GREAT MODERN HISTORY PROJECT FOR TODAYS C/V SCHOOL PUPILS TO DO A PROJECT ON, OR EVEN A VALE MAIL LOCAL NOSTALGIA STORY.
October 26, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Yes My Sons Name is Steven!
October 26, 2009 at 6:51 pm
MY WIFE HAD A WALK BY SCENE IN THE PLAY AS DID QUITE A FEW VALE YOUTHS OF THE TIME, CAN YOU REMEMBER THE EXACT YEAR IT WAS MADE??, WE ARE GUESSING IT WAS 1981-1983 ish. YOUR SON MAY HAVE BEEN A YEAR OR TWO OLDER THAN MY WIFE. WE HAVENT BEEN ON THE VALE FOR OVER TEN YEARS. THE MAIN FASHIONS ON THE VALE THEN WERE THE SKINHEADS, PUNK ROCKERS, SOME MODS-MODETTES AND SCOOTERBOYS RIDING VESPAS-LAMBRETTAS. BEFORE THEN IT WAS FLAIRED TROUSERS AND LONG HAIR.
November 12, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Hi, I would love to see this play if anyone has a copy they could lend me? I am working for Birmingham City University, looking at Well Being on Castle Vale. Please get in touch – jill.collins1@bcu.ac.uk
November 14, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Hi Jill,
Tried to send you an e-mail with info about castle vale tv play 1981-1983, But the e-mail keeps coming back to me as unknown address, is jill.collins1@bcu.ac.uk your correct e-mail address ?? . Am very interested in what you are doing i e well being on castle vale. Leave me your office contact details and i and my wife will get back to.
November 17, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Hi, sorry about the email error, the correct address is
jill.collins@bcu.ac.uk
Drop a line with your details.
Jill